New Star Soccer - week 1 sales

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Posted 1+ years ago #51
siread

I think you can see where the success started to really kick in. After 'The Sun' reviewed the game it shot up the charts (sales tripled over night). Then a week later I did an update with a 1-shot 'Would you like to review this game?' prompt after about an hours play. Suddenly 5 star reviews starting pouring in (so far 7700 for this version!) and it climbed all the way to #1 top-grossing app in the UK. It has been in the top 5 for about 2 weeks now.

While I am super happy at the success of the game I am slightly annoyed that it hasn't been replicated anywhere else in the world (except Ireland). Apparently the UK market accounts for about 8% of revenue on iOS where as the USA is a whopping 42%! (http://www.appannie.com/blog/#.T-R3TrVYuSo) Of course, New Star Soccer is making more money than I ever expected but I can only imagine how much a world-wide hit makes. Now if only Apple would feature the game (or even put it in their special 'Football' section!!!).

 
Posted 1+ years ago #52
Raz

You're gonna have to come up with New Star Football (said through gritted teeth), New Star Baseball and New Star Basketball for the American market (maybe New Star Hockey for Canada too!).

Actually thinking about it, if you managed to get the same feel going I can't see any reason why they wouldn't be as much of a hit as New Star Soccer is in the UK :)

 
Posted 1+ years ago #53
York

wow,

that´s amazing.. Congratulation for this. =)

 
Posted 1+ years ago #54
Xaron

Just bought it for my Android phone, good work!

Out of curiosity, why don't you use InApp purchases for Android like you do for iPhone?

Do you have a special iPad version or is it just a universal app?

Thanks and congratulations for your success!

 
Posted 1+ years ago #55
ziggy

Maybe the fact it is not getting the same results on the US market is because on this Market people do not play soccer?

 
Posted 1+ years ago #56
Grey Alien

Awesome success. Thanks for sharing those new results. Yeah probably you need to make New Star Baseball or Football or something. In Canada New Star Hockey :-)

 
Posted 1+ years ago #57
Neuro

New Star Basketball would do it for me :). Or how about jump on the fastest rising sports now, New Star MMA :)!

 
Posted 1+ years ago #58
Why0Why

I was telling Simon that soccer is not too big in the US and I thought basketball would do well. But MMA sounds really awesome!

 
Posted 1+ years ago #59
siread

I didn't go for IAPs on Android because as far as I know there wasn't a nice and easy IAP mod at the time, and I really wanted to get the game out by that point. I also figured it would be a nice experiment to compare free+iap versus paid apps. In retrospect I should have gone down the same route on Android as I did on iOS, particularly considering that piracy is rampant on Android. iOS revenue is 10x that of Android!

I'm considering doing a different sport to cater for the US market but I actually have another idea for a new style of footie game, as that is where my passion lies. Just wish I had more time!

 
Posted 1+ years ago #60
c.k.

Simon, now that you've made your millions, you can always buy time (by hiring other people to do the work for you). :-)

 
Posted 1+ years ago #61
siread

Yeah, I've been thinking about that. I think if I cleaned up my Monkey code I might hire someone to build a different sport based on the existing code. I've a lot going on at the moment but will start thinking about it in the next month or two. If anyone is interested be sure to drop me a line. We could probably come up with some sort of rev-share agreement. :)

By the way, i'm still a LONG way from £millions. :P

 
Posted 1+ years ago #62
Xaron

Here here! :)

 
Posted 1+ years ago #63
AaronK

Well done Simon. As I mentioned in another new star soccer thread, I'm addicted to this damned game. I had no idea it was written in Monkey until it crashed and I got a Monkey Runtime Error dialog :) It's only happened once though.

Very nice
Aaron

 
Posted 1+ years ago #64
Cygnus

Hey, nice one! Would you care to share (I understand if not!) how you marketed this? You have kind of blown my mind with how well you've done.

Great work! :-)

 
Posted 1+ years ago #65
siread

I didn't do any marketing really. The Flash version did really well, particularly on Kongregate, and that helped to sell the mobile versions initially. Eventually reviewers started to pick up on the game, and then the newspapers followed which really pushed it up to the top of the iPhone chart. Once you are there you need to keep updating the game in order to keep it fresh, keep people talking about it and keep it in the top 25. That kind of visibility on the app stores is absolutely key. Apple never helped me at all in getting it there, whilst other games get featured on release and see huge numbers straight away. It took weeks of being in the top 10 for them to even feature it in What's Hot. (It really is a case of 'who you know' in terms of getting featured on Apple, and I still don't know any one!)

I think what it proved to me is that if you have a really good product then you can rise to the top. Otherwise you need a huge amount of polish and good contacts to get featured. Even then you will see titles fade away as soon as their ranking slips.

Oh, and go free-to-play in some way. Not in a cynical way - NSS uses the age old trial mode/unlock system (with some in-app-purchases for good measure). Just don't be afraid of going free - it's vital to get the download numbers and I believe everything will be f2p on mobile eventually so get in before it's too late!

 
Posted 1+ years ago #66
Gerry Quinn

How are you implementing the trial-unlock? A registration code, or a standard API?

 
Posted 1+ years ago #67
siread

It's just an in-app-purchase which when bought stores a flag in the master save file. Android isn't free to play which was a huge mistake in hindsight as piracy is rampant on that platform. There just wasn't a good solution in Monkey at the time (and I think that is still the case?).

 
Posted 1+ years ago #68
Xaron

As far as I know there is an InApp module for Android?!

 
Posted 1+ years ago #69
Cygnus

Good info Siread! Thanks very much.

Our games got featured (Spring Bonus on the app store) but we saw nowhere near what you've seen, so it really does seem like it can be a bit of pot luck, but this is exactly the sort of game you can imagine people finding and loving. It would seem sports+free+IAP=money? We are free to play, but where do you put the IAP?

That part is different for every game. Jake (GreyAlien here) is currently away for a while but we're both trying to decide the best way to get the best from our releases. I'm trying to get a few ideas together for when he gets back. Your post above is quite surprising :-)

@Siread - IAP is totally doable on Android. We decided against it as it simply wasn't getting any attention that would make updating it worth the hassle. Perhaps I need to look at that again- But it's very doable!
Unfortunately though, Android Piracy is just too easy. It needs looking at, as it is actually so easy as to be a deterrent for me on that platform, despite it being the platform I wanted to primarily target.

 
Posted 1+ years ago #70
AaronK

Thanks for the information Simon, it's always interesting to here how other people are doing and their approaches to marketting. My app TrapIt has made less than nothing, never been featured and has faded away into obscurity, but I think I might see if I can turn it into a F2P version and see if it gets any more traction that way.

Cheers
Aaron

 
Posted 1+ years ago #71
Xaron

I agree that free to play games might be the future at least to get enough downloads. But there are quite a lot of players who don't like that...

Anyway, could you share your InApp sales percentwise? I assume that you carrier mode is the best sold one. How do players accept those "stars" packages? (Btw, what am I supposed to do with these stars?)

I'm very interested how many players actually buy the carrier mode? Again, percentwise is enough. In my case of my Battleship game I have about 2% of people who buy the full version vs playing the lite one. I have more than 100.000 downloads of the lite and about 2.000 sales of the full...

Thanks!

 
Posted 1+ years ago #72
BlackD

*Gets New Star Soccer*
*Forgets to do 8 hours of work today*

Very nice. :) Although, I did discover a very minor bug on (at least) the iOS version. When you're marked as a substitute due to low energy (as opposed to "unimpressed"); and then a random event (as opposed to a drink) like a teammate giving you a drink, or letting you use his hottub, etc, boosts your energy levels back up; the game still shows you as being a substitute with low energy as a reason. However progressing to the match demonstrates you no longer are (ie, a normal game due to normal energy levels).

+BlackD

EDIT: OK, at least iOS and Flash. ;) Probably all of them, but like I said - very minor. It's a display only bug and doesn't affect the game. Example in action, after receiving an energy drink from a teammate:

 
Posted 1+ years ago #73
siread

Thanks for that! :)

 
Posted 1+ years ago #74
ziggy

Hi, another thing:
1.- Background sound sometimes disappears
2.- Some problems with image rendering getting corrupted after hours of pure addiction
3.- Text sometimes is too large to fit on screen on Spanish and it's impossible to read on the Star Man newspaper and the like. Also, the Enery Too Low message on the Skills menu is also too wide to be shown properly on Spanish.

Other than that, I love the game.

 
Posted 1+ years ago #75
ziggy

Double post